i'm confused. aren't the shell chargers actually tesla chargers??

btw, just started mapping supercharger in the north america. I hope I don't fuck it up. :-)

Yes, I made an accident and mapped multiple ref:supercharge_info with the tesla ref. I assumed that somehow or may read that wrong somewhere. Now I'm correcting slowly. adding ref:tesla add the same time. ref:tesla is the id that tesla references. can usually be seen all urls on the tesla website related to that charger. Should make it easier in the future to reference it.

ref:tesla2, no idea, not mine :-)

In Europe i have seen both. Replace or just expand, it depends. But on the charging station we should reference the max. man_made charge points can of course be more specific.

At least that's how I understand it.

clearly wrong, I'm sorry.

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Hi. Thank you for the supercharger! I updated this supercharger slightly.

I suggest to check the wiki about charging_stations

amenity=charging_station

The guidelines have changed a lot in the last 2-3 years, especially the "socket" chaos :-)

No critique, just wanted to mention and spread the word :-)

Thank you!

Why?

These are more or less equivalent, and were only recently deprecated. hence should stay for a while so consumer apps can catch up.
socket:tesla_supercharger_ccs=14
socket:tesla_supercharger_ccs:output=150 kW

it's why I added that one.
socket:type2_combo=14
socket:type2_combo:output=150 kW

the older one probablz stays valid, since these reference old charging plug which are still on older chargers. I think they are tesla only.
socket:tesla_supercharger=14
socket:tesla_supercharger:output=150 kW

easy understandable for me :-)

Just read my text again, doesn't read as nice as I wanted. I just wanted to point to the wiki since all the charging related tagging has changed quite in the last 1-3 years. Nothing else. :-)

In general I'm very happy if people add all the chargers. I hate all the 1000 apps for every country to find chargers. OSM is perfect for that :-)

I just noticed iD says that man_made shouldn't be on a line, which then breaks the autocomplete to a charge_point...

Yes, as much as I know it's kind of new, 2-3 years maybe. The whole charging situation is slowly unwinding. It's also why I am often commenting like this. I want people to know and I want OSM to be perfect for electric cars. I hate the 1000 local apps for every country and charging provider.

But it's probably not too bad to have them the old way. In the past, most charging stations were small anyway, often 1-2 stations except for Tesla.
I think one could get charging stations that are in very close proximity using overpass turbo. I did some script in the past to find all the tesla stations like this, was pretty easy.

It's a lot worse if you look at the sockets. so much happened there and is still happening. meanwhile editors like iD are lagging completely due to discussions. But as usual in OSM, from nothing, to something, to better, to perfect :-)

Sounds like a lovely edge case 🥴
Thank you a lot for clarifying!

Shall I extend the description? Not sure if it is really needed. I just don't want people get into a mess accidentally while charging, may at night when people are more vulnerable

Warum nicht? Wird überall so genannt. Die URL war auch kürzer. Von Openstreetmap auf eine Map linken ist auch eher sinnlos...

hi. I think here you mapped the whole supercharger into many charging station but that is wrong. a charging station can be an area for the whole set of chargers too. each individual station is then a man_made=charge_point

see also
amenity=charging_station

you mind if I fix it?

(mapping chargers in general is a mess)

thank you for the supercharger, I updated it slightly. There are some good presets on iD too :-)

In case you want to learn how to map charging stations very accurately (and usefully for electric car drivers), here's the wiki
amenity=charging_station

Further in case you are local, you may convert the charging_station to an area and add each charging point too.
man_made=charge_point

no critic, just a hint :-)

Thank you for fixing my mistake and adding back the (less accurate) summaries. For me it's just very important to get to charging infrastructure mapped right and also more or less easy readable. For electric car drivers it often matters a lot how big and fast a charging station is. And there are a 1000 proprietary apps having localized data, but it sucks as tourist. So really wish for osm to be the leader here :-)

The wiki article contradicts that. Same as a map consumer, I really think it‘s useful and practical to have the summary of chargers on a node/area. I suggest do discus this there or on the community website ( 1 of 1000 charger discussions :-) )

My analogy would be parking spaces, which belong to a parking. We do not expect the map consumers to count spaces inside the parking, instead we use the capacity. I consider the sockets as capacity.

amenity=charging_station

Oh shit, I thought the use the Tesla ID?!? 🗿

I will verify and cleanup.

(soll heissen, mir sollen alles recht ein, hauptsache konstistent durchgezogen)