> Then why did you add contact details?

I wasn't aware of the multiple objects for the same thing at the time.
Aim is to try and add address from the FHRS data where available.

> But that doesn't name the catering contractor
The FHRS is assigned to the contractor, not the school.

> The caterer is contracted to multiple venues each with its own FHRS therefore requires a separate tag for each venue.

Where there are multiple items inside the same building each one doesn't need to be named separately in OSM.

Ad an extreme example for RBS Gogarburn there are 5 FHRS ids tagged to the building: way/91156737 As it's a private business that we can't easily map the inside of, this is the best way to do it. Each of those businesses or corporate catering kitchens are unable to be accessed by the public or customers, thus assigning them all to the same building is the best way forward. One of them is even a Tesco Express which is only open to staff there. Oddly the Tesco Express is on their store locator with no mention that it's not open to the public https://www.tesco.com/store-locator/edinburgh/175-glasgow-rd

The Deli counter: https://ratings.food.gov.uk/business/661932 I've worked there about a decade ago and know it's for staff and signed in visitors only. Could map it separately however as a generally mapper from the public it's impossible to keep it up to date, hence the view of myself and others in the Edinburgh OSM meetups is that we shouldn't map them separately and instead attach the FHRS ID to the building or bigger business.

In terms of the schools that have outside catering. We (the Edinburgh OSM meetup group) are of the view that you go to the school, you can't go to the school and order some catering. The catering is private to the school, and therefore the FHRS id should be attributed to the school rather than as a separate business. I regularly see schools with 3 FHRS ids: Main school catering, Nursery, and an after school club, or some variation on this. The general consensus I've seen elsewhere in the country is that these would all be attached to the school with the IDs separated by a semi colon. Bath is the only place I've seen outside catering of a school or nursing home or similar with a separate node for the catering. There some areas where a pub will have multiple FHRS ids as eg the Sunday lunch is done by a different organisation. This then matches the on the ground rule.

You can see the pub, school, or nursing home, but can't see there's any separate catering business there.

> I don't know what you mean by that.

I've been using this tool to help target where to work. Bath is almost over the 90% threshold in matching which is excellent. It's going to good to see some more areas over 90% (needs both FHRS id and postcode to match).
https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/?lat=52.06843&lon=-2.11281&zoom=13&layer=suggest

I'm fixing way/87245836 apologies for the oversight.

Regarding the several craft=caterer nodes I've found in the area I'm not convinced it's the right way to tag the information as there is not a separate catering business that you could go to, instead it's an outside contractor or multiple different managers within the same building, hence eg for catering service for a school I'd just add the FHRS id to the school potentially as a ; separated list rather than having a separate node for the caterer. I see the tag craft=caterer being the base/office/van of a business that you could go to for eg outside catering, or other venue catering. The FHRS comparison does support having a list of FHRS:ids.

Based on the FHRS id changes I've seen it look like it's linked to an inspection, so a new inspection can mean a new ID.

The map on https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/ and the different map layers is really useful for updating the ids, especially via JOSM.

You can click on a region an get a graph below the map showing the FHRS id coverage over time. There's 2 graphs which highlight different data depending on which layer you are on (FHRS establishments vs OSM objects). It looks like the matching was high for Leeds back in 2019/2020 and then slowly over time has reduced, I suspect due to the usual churn of business changes and new inspections.

The Edinburgh OSM group have questions about the inconsistency that some things can disappear straight away, and others and stay for years after they are closed.

Thanks for raising my oversight on this example, I'll do better checks going forward to prevent the same thing happening again.

I've been trying to reduce the length of some of the bars on https://gregrs.dev.openstreetmap.org/fhodot/summary.html to improve the FHRS coverage.

This exact issue of FHRS data still existing after a place has closed or changed is something that the Edinburgh OSM group have picked up on, as we think it would be good for there to be some form of way to tell the above linked tool that the place has closed and thus no longer exists thus preventing these sorts of issues longer term.

Not sie why we would link to a Wikipedia article about a specific bus model. Would the company be a better option?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Dennis

Thanks for fixing. One of the pain points I find with every door is changing the type of a node. Unless there's a trick or UI element I've missed?

Based on the fix me type, It's a station help point. An interface with speak, microphone and two buttons. One button is for emergency assistance, the other for information. You can get through to a human for help. It's not a general phone. Most stations in the UK have them.

Looking at osm.wiki/wik/Railway_stations amenity=telephone is the closest however it's not a general telephone and doesn't look like a telephone but can be used like one but to only the train company and emergency services.

Yes the amenity=fixme should be removed. Thanks for spotting.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/25025087.new-europa-way-link-road-ipswich-officially-opens/ suggests it's been open for a week.

I no longer live in the area to be able to do an in person survey, should it be required.

Err the comment should be the similarly named time Garelochhead!

Thanks for sorting, I thought I'd hit undo on all the cases that is managed to drag a larger object accidentally. Based on my phone GPS the road needed a bit of realignment. I'll try and get the trace off the GPS and see if that's more accurate.

I agree that seems like a better way to tag it.

Also the road between Lillstadt and Wachbach is signed for access only for farm vehicles and walking/cycling only if I've understood the sign right, so it probably needs an update to discourage routers taking you over it for longer journeys. I wasn't sure how best to tag that restriction.

If I remember correctly it's an asphalt surface but poor quality.

Hi Jerry,

I suspect I accidentally put it on the pub instead of the nearby post box.

Shaun,

I'm curious why some roads have been changed from tertiary to tertiary_link which I'd say is invalid especially considering the length. The *_link type road types are normally only used for motorway to secondary and nothing smaller. The link types are also only for very short sections of road, for example slip roads. In this case they are much longer than slip roads.

This is in completely the wrong country. I've reverted the change.